I probably won't cut down on number of pillows. You're a lovely body pillow, but sometimes I just need my own rigged equivalent.
( More of a side sleeper than a back sleeper, and not really one for stomach sleeping since breasts made it moot ages ago. Her hands on him slow into not so much helpful washing motions as little rubbing circles with her thumbs when he starts working on her hair. The slash scalp massage is getting her to close her eyes. Heck, the whole of the showering is helping her relax, which was part of the point.
She also likes being cleaner, however fun the sex is, as it tends to make her feel more clearheaded regardless of the reality. )
That's fair. Bed's big enough for as many as we want, so it'll be fine.
[He's a back sleeper or stomach sleeper, depending on the day and how tired he is, but the important thing is that the bed is big enough for him. A king is the absolute bare minimum.]
Possibly. I don't have any plants in the fortress, but I'm not going to assume it won't be a problem until we know for sure.
[Scrub scrub scrub. It's kind of soothing to him, too.]
Maybe there's something we can spray on plants to make him avoid them.
( She only shifts so that it's easier for the water to run through her hair. Grounding details also make this real in a different way, and she co-opts the moment to lean back into him fully hair and skin against skin. )
I'm not always a peaceful sleeper. You may have noticed by now, ( it'd be difficult not to, Lois goes from sleeping tolerably to being a light sleeper to waking up gasping from nightmares, and that at present is about to get worse; ) but it's not a problem to wake me up. None of that sleep paralysis stuff.
( Her lips twitch down into a frown, before she slowly, painfully admits: )
I feel like anything we spray on the plants is just going to make him want to lick them more because we sprayed them.
( Tipping her head back and narrowing her eyes against the falling water: )
Bend down or kneel?
( Context would be useful, but the most she's giving is by reaching up to run her nails through some of his waterlogged hair. Hey, tall guy. )
[He's not immune to her leaning against him. Clark's hands go still for a moment as he smiles and presses a kiss to the top of her head. If that gives him a bit of a shampoo beard, oh well.]
I'll wake you up if it seems like you're having a bad dream. You don't have to worry about waking me up, though. I fall back asleep pretty easily and I don't actually need as much sleep as most people.
[For obvious implied reasons. Kryptonite recovery sleep marathons excepted. She's probably right about the plants, though, they'll just have to improvise.
He considers his options for a moment, but kneeling is just going to make him want to do more things that'll get them sweaty again, which will make them need to shower again, which could use up all the hot water. He bends down a few inches, far enough that Lois can reach where she needs to without getting dangerously up on her tiptoes.]
( Sharing is caring, even if sharing is what shampoo isn't washed out yet, and doesn't need to be. Don't most say let it sit? Or is that just conditioner. Lois isn't particularly caring to remember the particulars of hair care routines when her mind is filled with other things, so she ends up smiling at the kiss, and sighing a little when he makes the better call and tips his head forward.
Getting her own dollop of shampoo in her hands and rubbing them together, she lifts them and runs them through his wet locks, brushing them back first before she starts massaging the shampoo in with her fingers and nails. Which she needs to cut, she determines, the odd sort of thought that's not disruptive so much as witnessed and then dismissed for later.
It's what he says about not needing sleep that gets her expression to turn a little uncertain. Her voice is pitched low and soft when she asks: )
Clark... have you started thinking about if you want kids of your own one day?
( It's not about Jon. This is very much sounding out how much of the unhappy surprise of his bio-parents full message he is or isn't wrestling with on a personal revelations and processing personal wants irrespective of people's loving and misguided hopes. Probably a terrible thing to ask when they're talking about moving in together officially, but it's the same problem as earlier. Lois looking longer term to figure out what that looks like from each of their perspectives.
And how she has such trouble just indulging in the now alone when it's not physically and mentally engaging in a particular, focused moment. )
[Gosh, this feels good. Maybe they should do this more often. Clark makes a happy content sound until Lois brings up a completely different topic, and then he's just blinking in surprise, head raised, hair still full of foam.
Maybe it's because of where they are, close together in an impossibly intimate scenario, naked and warm and relaxed, that he doesn't automatically tense up. Or maybe he's just made some progress since that guilt-ridden conversation in WcDonald's.]
A little. Maybe.
[An answer to the question she actually asked and one for the implied follow-up. He thinks about it for a moment longer as he starts to rinse the shampoo out of Lois' hair, giving his hands something to do.]
I'm not going to pretend I'm over my parents' message, but it's...softer now. The very idea doesn't get me all seized up anymore. Some of that's because of Jon, and probably some is just time.
[Maybe one day it won't hurt anymore. Clark doesn't really believe that, but it's a nice idea.]
It also depends on whether I could make it work with being Superman. I can't not help people, but I can't be half in, half out of a kid's life, either. Whether they had powers too or not wouldn't matter. And it'd depend on who I was having kids with.
[Which obviously prompts the question — and she has to know it's coming — ]
( She's watching for reactions, and this is already softened from a few months ago, sitting across the table from each other in WcDonalds. Her shoulders relax a fraction, a tension she hadn't realized started creeping in when she was bringing up something that matters very much for him, in ways he hadn't thought it ever could.
Maybe it's because of what's just happened, or the fact they're through to the other side of the fog and Jon's also alright, or the fact the heat and the intimacy that isn't overtly sexual even if it could have been that makes it... simpler, in some ways, to simply lean in closer. Lois keeps her chin level as he works through rinsing out her hair, humming a sort of acknowledgement as he speaks.
When he turns the question on her, as she's been expecting, she leans in and presses a kiss to his breastbone before she answers. It's not cut and dry to her, but some of why she's brought up before. Part of it isn't so far off from what he mentions about wanting to be all in, so he'd have to figure out being Superman and Superdad at once, because being only one or the other is... asking for a partner to step up and single parent more often than not. Lois has a sort of sneaking suspicion that short of retiring, or relying even more on something like an expanded Justice Gang, it will still lean hazardously close to that direction, only with love behind it instead of the same sorts of things she knows from her own childhood.
Kids always know where they rank in their parents' lives. )
Most the time I'd say I don't know. I don't dislike the concept? But I've told you before, I don't have faith in being a great mother. I don't know what that looks like.
( And she hasn't seen a lot of it in her life. His parents, Martha and Jon Kent, have been one of the few times she's seen such unconditional, undisguised affection and care from parents to a child. It still blows her mind a little, even as it warms her heart.
She breathes in, closing her eyes for a moment. What she's about to say is an internal debate first, talking theoreticals in broad strokes, or talking theoreticals in specific ones. When she opens her eyes again, it's to lift her chin and look Clark in the face, water raining down and making her blink more than she would otherwise. The waterfall showerhead at least makes speaking while looking up doable, compared to some showerheads of apartments pasts. The internal debate has landed on one path forward, and if she's already naked and vulnerable, can she stick with that trend and not regret it right after? )
If we ever decided on that, if we decided on a whole slew of things leading up to that, if you could find a balance that doesn't leave one of us as a single parent due to logistics... then yes. I think that's something I could imagine with you.
( Not in general, but this is also her nod and callout to the fact it's a balancing act she's not sedately going to pick up the slack on. Lois knows she can, as needed, and as tradeoffs require it, but for the same reason she wouldn't have imagined herself dating a superhero before... for the same damn reason she'd told him she didn't expect him to avoid danger, but to consider more. )
[Her answer doesn't come right away and Clark doesn't expect it to. He doesn't mind. The kiss is a sign that she's not completely lost in her own head, mulling it over, and it makes him smile and run his fingertips up and down her arms as he waits for her answer. He could wait for her forever and be fine with it.
His heart lifts when she does give an indication of what she's thinking and feeling, and he's not initially sure whether that's because uncertainty still leaves room for possibility, or because she's not sure either way and that's not really so different from his own thoughts, even if he likes the idea of being a dad (on purpose and not via multiversal acquisition.)
He doesn't tell her that it's okay not to know how to be a great mother, that he does know what being a great father looks like but still doesn't know how to do it. That kind of thing is something they both have to figure out for themselves, on their own, until they might decide to figure the rest out together.
But the rest of what she says...the water is still plenty hot and has been for a while, so that can't be why Clark feels a sudden warmth blooming in his chest.]
It wouldn't be a dealbreaker for me either way. Because no matter what specific form our future takes, I want to get it right.
[He takes his arms around her back, holding her loosely but closer than before.]
But if we both wanted it, and could make it work, I could see doing with you, too. One day.
( Lois would be lying if part of her doesn't want to squirm in this conversation, and not in a fun way, only in the uncomfortable facing herself way. Facing Clark feels easier, which she's not sure she wants to examine either. She will, at some point, but that point is not presently the one she's perched upon.
But the heat of the water keeps her warm, and the gooseflesh she breaks out in is more reaction to mental stimulus than physical temperature changes. With his arms around her back, she steps into him, bringing her arms up over his shoulders in such a familiar, easy, known way. )
Mmm. How about instead of right, we do it well?
( Mess up, figure it out, keep going. Right feels almost impossible to do in a relationship, whatever forms it takes. Doing everything as well as they can, making good and making up, arguing and agreeing, nitpicking and supporting, all that can be done well.
So can... kids, maybe. Not getting it right, but doing it well. Along with marriage, which has been the elephant her brain's been dancing away from this whole time, and which continues to stand in the corner of the bathroom, pink and unacknowledged. There's only so much deep reflection she has energy for right now, and mostly? She just wants to lean her forehead against Clark's chest. )
[Some small part of Clark is marveling at and remembering a year or so ago, when he'd been nervous about sharing his secret identity with Lois and half-terrified of asking her out. Now they're talking about multiple years down the line, whether they want to have kids together, and there's the unspoken but adjacent topic of whether they might want to get married eventually.
They've come a long way from there, and not only because interdimensional travel and the existence of their alternate timeline son has pushed them to consider certain versions of their future. It doesn't feel that far, that fast, is the thing. It feels natural, him and Lois. Not easy, exactly — loving her is easy, but love is far from the only thing that makes a successful relationship. Still, he can't help but feel that they're on the right path, that they can do it well if they want to, if they stick together and stay as honest as they have been.]
Doing it well sounds like a good plan to me.
[He wraps his arms tighter around her and kisses her head again, wanting to hold her close even though he can sense that she's getting tired. Just for a minute or so.]
Want to dry off and go to bed? We can figure out moving logistics in the morning.
( Lois lets herself lean into him, eyes closed, warm even as part of her still is unsettled. Less than it was earlier. A lot less, if she's honest. Should this feel more world changing, or less? Is she awake enough right now to decide either way?
Opening her eyes, she squints up at him to avoid getting water droplets directly into her eyes. )
Yeah, let's do that. Both the drying off, the sleeping, and figuring out logistics later. Haven't had to even worry about moving logistics for... years before now, anyway.
( Meaning she'll squirm around to reach for the shower handle, cranking it off and leaving the waterfall dripping less and less as it goes. )
This'll be like a warm-up, then. There's not even much to move and it all belongs to me and Jon.
[Clark can't see Lois ignoring them and not helping, but still. It won't be much of a move when they've already been halfway living together; this just makes it official.
He drops a kiss on her head before reaching for one of the towels hanging over the shower door.]
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( More of a side sleeper than a back sleeper, and not really one for stomach sleeping since breasts made it moot ages ago. Her hands on him slow into not so much helpful washing motions as little rubbing circles with her thumbs when he starts working on her hair. The slash scalp massage is getting her to close her eyes. Heck, the whole of the showering is helping her relax, which was part of the point.
She also likes being cleaner, however fun the sex is, as it tends to make her feel more clearheaded regardless of the reality. )
Is the dog a plant eater?
( The dog who isn't even here yet. )
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[He's a back sleeper or stomach sleeper, depending on the day and how tired he is, but the important thing is that the bed is big enough for him. A king is the absolute bare minimum.]
Possibly. I don't have any plants in the fortress, but I'm not going to assume it won't be a problem until we know for sure.
[Scrub scrub scrub. It's kind of soothing to him, too.]
Maybe there's something we can spray on plants to make him avoid them.
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I'm not always a peaceful sleeper. You may have noticed by now, ( it'd be difficult not to, Lois goes from sleeping tolerably to being a light sleeper to waking up gasping from nightmares, and that at present is about to get worse; ) but it's not a problem to wake me up. None of that sleep paralysis stuff.
( Her lips twitch down into a frown, before she slowly, painfully admits: )
I feel like anything we spray on the plants is just going to make him want to lick them more because we sprayed them.
( Tipping her head back and narrowing her eyes against the falling water: )
Bend down or kneel?
( Context would be useful, but the most she's giving is by reaching up to run her nails through some of his waterlogged hair. Hey, tall guy. )
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I'll wake you up if it seems like you're having a bad dream. You don't have to worry about waking me up, though. I fall back asleep pretty easily and I don't actually need as much sleep as most people.
[For obvious implied reasons. Kryptonite recovery sleep marathons excepted. She's probably right about the plants, though, they'll just have to improvise.
He considers his options for a moment, but kneeling is just going to make him want to do more things that'll get them sweaty again, which will make them need to shower again, which could use up all the hot water. He bends down a few inches, far enough that Lois can reach where she needs to without getting dangerously up on her tiptoes.]
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Getting her own dollop of shampoo in her hands and rubbing them together, she lifts them and runs them through his wet locks, brushing them back first before she starts massaging the shampoo in with her fingers and nails. Which she needs to cut, she determines, the odd sort of thought that's not disruptive so much as witnessed and then dismissed for later.
It's what he says about not needing sleep that gets her expression to turn a little uncertain. Her voice is pitched low and soft when she asks: )
Clark... have you started thinking about if you want kids of your own one day?
( It's not about Jon. This is very much sounding out how much of the unhappy surprise of his bio-parents full message he is or isn't wrestling with on a personal revelations and processing personal wants irrespective of people's loving and misguided hopes. Probably a terrible thing to ask when they're talking about moving in together officially, but it's the same problem as earlier. Lois looking longer term to figure out what that looks like from each of their perspectives.
And how she has such trouble just indulging in the now alone when it's not physically and mentally engaging in a particular, focused moment. )
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Maybe it's because of where they are, close together in an impossibly intimate scenario, naked and warm and relaxed, that he doesn't automatically tense up. Or maybe he's just made some progress since that guilt-ridden conversation in WcDonald's.]
A little. Maybe.
[An answer to the question she actually asked and one for the implied follow-up. He thinks about it for a moment longer as he starts to rinse the shampoo out of Lois' hair, giving his hands something to do.]
I'm not going to pretend I'm over my parents' message, but it's...softer now. The very idea doesn't get me all seized up anymore. Some of that's because of Jon, and probably some is just time.
[Maybe one day it won't hurt anymore. Clark doesn't really believe that, but it's a nice idea.]
It also depends on whether I could make it work with being Superman. I can't not help people, but I can't be half in, half out of a kid's life, either. Whether they had powers too or not wouldn't matter. And it'd depend on who I was having kids with.
[Which obviously prompts the question — and she has to know it's coming — ]
Do you want kids?
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Maybe it's because of what's just happened, or the fact they're through to the other side of the fog and Jon's also alright, or the fact the heat and the intimacy that isn't overtly sexual even if it could have been that makes it... simpler, in some ways, to simply lean in closer. Lois keeps her chin level as he works through rinsing out her hair, humming a sort of acknowledgement as he speaks.
When he turns the question on her, as she's been expecting, she leans in and presses a kiss to his breastbone before she answers. It's not cut and dry to her, but some of why she's brought up before. Part of it isn't so far off from what he mentions about wanting to be all in, so he'd have to figure out being Superman and Superdad at once, because being only one or the other is... asking for a partner to step up and single parent more often than not. Lois has a sort of sneaking suspicion that short of retiring, or relying even more on something like an expanded Justice Gang, it will still lean hazardously close to that direction, only with love behind it instead of the same sorts of things she knows from her own childhood.
Kids always know where they rank in their parents' lives. )
Most the time I'd say I don't know. I don't dislike the concept? But I've told you before, I don't have faith in being a great mother. I don't know what that looks like.
( And she hasn't seen a lot of it in her life. His parents, Martha and Jon Kent, have been one of the few times she's seen such unconditional, undisguised affection and care from parents to a child. It still blows her mind a little, even as it warms her heart.
She breathes in, closing her eyes for a moment. What she's about to say is an internal debate first, talking theoreticals in broad strokes, or talking theoreticals in specific ones. When she opens her eyes again, it's to lift her chin and look Clark in the face, water raining down and making her blink more than she would otherwise. The waterfall showerhead at least makes speaking while looking up doable, compared to some showerheads of apartments pasts. The internal debate has landed on one path forward, and if she's already naked and vulnerable, can she stick with that trend and not regret it right after? )
If we ever decided on that, if we decided on a whole slew of things leading up to that, if you could find a balance that doesn't leave one of us as a single parent due to logistics... then yes. I think that's something I could imagine with you.
( Not in general, but this is also her nod and callout to the fact it's a balancing act she's not sedately going to pick up the slack on. Lois knows she can, as needed, and as tradeoffs require it, but for the same reason she wouldn't have imagined herself dating a superhero before... for the same damn reason she'd told him she didn't expect him to avoid danger, but to consider more. )
One of these days.
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His heart lifts when she does give an indication of what she's thinking and feeling, and he's not initially sure whether that's because uncertainty still leaves room for possibility, or because she's not sure either way and that's not really so different from his own thoughts, even if he likes the idea of being a dad (on purpose and not via multiversal acquisition.)
He doesn't tell her that it's okay not to know how to be a great mother, that he does know what being a great father looks like but still doesn't know how to do it. That kind of thing is something they both have to figure out for themselves, on their own, until they might decide to figure the rest out together.
But the rest of what she says...the water is still plenty hot and has been for a while, so that can't be why Clark feels a sudden warmth blooming in his chest.]
It wouldn't be a dealbreaker for me either way. Because no matter what specific form our future takes, I want to get it right.
[He takes his arms around her back, holding her loosely but closer than before.]
But if we both wanted it, and could make it work, I could see doing with you, too. One day.
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But the heat of the water keeps her warm, and the gooseflesh she breaks out in is more reaction to mental stimulus than physical temperature changes. With his arms around her back, she steps into him, bringing her arms up over his shoulders in such a familiar, easy, known way. )
Mmm. How about instead of right, we do it well?
( Mess up, figure it out, keep going. Right feels almost impossible to do in a relationship, whatever forms it takes. Doing everything as well as they can, making good and making up, arguing and agreeing, nitpicking and supporting, all that can be done well.
So can... kids, maybe. Not getting it right, but doing it well. Along with marriage, which has been the elephant her brain's been dancing away from this whole time, and which continues to stand in the corner of the bathroom, pink and unacknowledged. There's only so much deep reflection she has energy for right now, and mostly? She just wants to lean her forehead against Clark's chest. )
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They've come a long way from there, and not only because interdimensional travel and the existence of their alternate timeline son has pushed them to consider certain versions of their future. It doesn't feel that far, that fast, is the thing. It feels natural, him and Lois. Not easy, exactly — loving her is easy, but love is far from the only thing that makes a successful relationship. Still, he can't help but feel that they're on the right path, that they can do it well if they want to, if they stick together and stay as honest as they have been.]
Doing it well sounds like a good plan to me.
[He wraps his arms tighter around her and kisses her head again, wanting to hold her close even though he can sense that she's getting tired. Just for a minute or so.]
Want to dry off and go to bed? We can figure out moving logistics in the morning.
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Opening her eyes, she squints up at him to avoid getting water droplets directly into her eyes. )
Yeah, let's do that. Both the drying off, the sleeping, and figuring out logistics later. Haven't had to even worry about moving logistics for... years before now, anyway.
( Meaning she'll squirm around to reach for the shower handle, cranking it off and leaving the waterfall dripping less and less as it goes. )
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[Clark can't see Lois ignoring them and not helping, but still. It won't be much of a move when they've already been halfway living together; this just makes it official.
He drops a kiss on her head before reaching for one of the towels hanging over the shower door.]
I love you. I'm really happy about this.